Note: This episode was filmed on Monday, January 19 and the edit was finalized early on Saturday, January 24, before news broke about the second (known) ICE execution in Minneapolis of 37-year-old Minneapolis resident Alex Pretti.
Today, we’re talking about a beloved American pastime: killing civilians1 in the name of public safety.
On the right, you’ll watch JD Vance and his trademark charmless sneer2 explain that this is only happening because civilians are being disorderly. Kristi Noem will tell you—straight from her lying bitch face3—that ICE agents are being assaulted every day.
And on the liberal side of the aisle, you’re more likely to hear that the problem is that these agents aren’t “trained”4 to “follow the law.”
This conversation examines:
















